Middle of the Fence
Welcome to Middle of the Fence, the captivating podcast that delves into the stark duality of a unique upbringing, combining the raw experiences of being raised in one of New Jersey’s highest-crime areas while having the privilege of receiving a top-tier private school education in Morris County, one of the wealthiest counties in the nation.
In each episode, Andre Spruell uncovers the complex interplay between these two contrasting worlds, exploring the challenges, triumphs, and unique perspectives that arise from this extraordinary upbringing. Through personal anecdotes, thought-provoking interviews, and in-depth discussions, Andre sheds a light on the rich tapestry of experiences that shaped his identity and worldview.
Middle of the Fence offers an authentic and unfiltered glimpse into the dynamics of socio-economic disparities, shedding light on the intersections of privilege, resilience, and community. With a keen focus on personal growth, social justice, and understanding, this podcast aims to bridge the gap between different realities, inspiring listeners to challenge their preconceptions and foster empathy in a world marked by diversity.
Tune in to Middle of the Fence and embark on a journey that explores the complex nuances of life, unveiling the unexpected connections and shared humanity that exist even amidst divergent circumstances.
Middle of the Fence
Protectors or Predators? Police Brutality | Ep. 23
In Episode 23 of Middle of the Fence, Andre breaks down a tough but necessary conversation: police brutality, systemic bias, and how policing looks drastically different on the “Tough Terrain” vs. “Affluent Acres” sides of the fence. Drawing from lived experience, academic research, traffic-stop data, and a 2006 FBI report on white supremacist infiltration in law enforcement, this episode examines how communities across America experience the police in two completely different realities.
Andre explores:
• Over-policing in urban communities and the “TSA treatment” many people of color face daily
• Generational trauma and its long-term effects on trust in law enforcement
• Data from Stanford University (100M+ traffic stops) showing disproportionate stops of Black drivers
• Why some officers of color still enforce harmful systemic biases
• Affluent communities & policing as protection — and how privilege shapes perception
• The historical roots of American policing, beginning with slave patrols
• The 2006 FBI intelligence report detailing white supremacist infiltration concerns
• What it means to live in the middle and see both sides up close
🔗 FBI 2006 Report
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/24350-fbi-warned-white-supremacists-law-enforcement-15-years-ago-fbi-counterterrorism
🎧 Whether you've lived these realities or are hearing them in-depth for the first time, this episode pushes us to reflect on empathy, accountability, and the future of public safety.
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